About the Album
Gentle Giant's fourth album has a harder, more rocking edge, making a striking contrast with their more symphonic third album. No doubt the reason was the introduction of John Weathers on drums. The album still contains a wide variety of sounds and textures, from the rocking power of The Advent Of Panurge to the vocal intricacies of Knots to the beauty of Think Of Me With Kindness.
See the Japanese CD cover.
See the cover proposed by George Underwood which was not used.
The band had an octopus balloon as a promotional item.
Gary Green - Guitars, percussion
Kerry Minnear - All keyboards, vibraphone, percussion, cello, Moog, lead and backing vocals
Derek Shulman - Lead vocals, alto saxophone
Philip Shulman - Saxophones, trumpet, mellophone, lead and backing vocals
Raymond Shulman - Bass violin, guitar, percussion, vocals (note typographical error, "bass violin")
John Weathers - Drums, percussion, xylophone.
Many thanks to Martin Rushent for laugh coinspin and variable speed oscillator, and Mike Viccars, Moog operator.
NOTE: The "Mike Viccars" credited above is "actually Mike Vickers, guitarist, saxist with the Manfreds, the band who used to back Manfred Mann in the 1960s." (Thanks to Marcel Glen Safier!) Marcel spoke with Mike Vickers and "told him about Martin Smith's passing but he said in fact he didn't really know the guys, he was just called in for the album as he got one of the very early Moogs (well before Manfred in fact) and was into setting up the sounds patches. He also did orchestration and arranged the string part on the Beatles All You Need Is Love with George Martin."
Other liner notes:
All titles composed by Minnear, Shulman, Shulman and Shulman All titles published 1972 by Alucard Music (ASCAP) Produced by Gentle Giant Engineer: Martin Rushent Mastering Engineer: Cliff Morris Tape Operator: Geoff Young Over-all American Supervision: Murray Krugman Recorded at Advision Studios, London Cover Concept and Design by John Berg Art by Fluid Drive Illustration: Charles White III Design: Kenny Kneitel Lettering: Michael Doret
- submitted by Marshall Wood
The Advent of Panurge
There coming over Charenton Bridge Look do you see the man who is poor but rich. What do you wish; and where do you go; Who are you; where are you from: will you tell me your name? Rest awhile; call me your friend. Please stay with me I'd like to help. Then he said, How can I speak when I'm dry and my throat is burning. So bring me aid and I'll answer your doubts. Friend in need I'd like your help Please take me home I'll stay with you. Then said he fair Pantagruel My name is Panurge and I have come from Hell. Look at my friend Look all around you Look at my friend Take all round you. Hey, Friend (Improvised foreign words in middle section) So brotherhood was made as their bond Carried him home and provide for his needs and his shelter; this day was done as no other the like. Faithfully their vow was made and from that day they were as one.
Note: Some people hear "bring me aid" as "bring me ale," especially as his throat is dry and burning.
Lead vocals: Derek
(Here we have tried to capture something of the medieval English troubadour, by the instrumentation, arrangement and lyrics.)
Gather round the village square Come good people both wretched and fair. See the troubadour play on the drum Hear my songs on the lute that I strum. I will make you laugh, Revel, Merry-dance. Throw your pennies, then you'll hear more of the story-telling half. There's no other chance, Always move on Raconteur, troubadour. Take the face that you see for the man, Clown and minstrel, I am what I am. All my family, not of my kin. Home, wherever, the place that I'm in. Humors give me wage, Favors for my art. Rising, falling Everyone struggle on. All the world's a stage All can play their part. I have chosen Raconteur, troubadour. Dusk is drawing my story is spun, Dawn is falling my day's work is done. Morning, rested I set on my way. Find new faces to offer my play. I will make you laugh, Revel, Merry-dance. Throw your pennies, then you'll hear more of The story-telling half. There's no other chance. Always move on Raconteur-Troubadour.
A Cry For Everyone
Lead vocals: Derek
(The lyric gives away something of the lyric thoughts of one or two members of the band, and is inspired by the literature and philosophy of Albert Camus.)
Run, why should I run away When at the end the only truth certain - One day everyone dies - If only to justify life. Live, I've lived a thousand lives; And anyone is the right, the just life. If I could cry, I'd cry for everyone. Doubts, no doubt, is all I know. There is no fate, there's no luck, what does that show. Showing is proof, but proving is nothing but fear. If I could cry, I'd cry then for everyone. Hope, I've hoped two thousand years, but no one hears, so I've cried, crying vain tears. Always too late, too late to cry, cry for everyone.
For other uses of "knots", see knots (disambiguation).
(R.D. Laing, an eminent psychologist, has stimulated us by his intriguing, logical, poetic riddles into composing this latter-day madrigal - and something of a musical jigsaw.)
All in all each man in all men All men in each man. He can see she can't, she can see she can see whatever, whatever. You may know what I don't know, but not that I don't know it and I can't tell you so you will. To tell me all man in all men All men in each man. He can see she can't, she can see she can see whatever, whatever. You may know what I don't know, but not that I don't know it and I can't tell you so you will have to tell me all. It hurts him to think that she is hurting her by him being hurt to think that she thinks he is hurt by making her feel guilty at hurting him by her thinking she wants him to want her. Her wants her to want him to get him to want him to get him to want her she pretends. He tries to make her afraid by not being afraid. (permutations) You may know what I don't know, but not that I don't know it and I can't tell you so you will have to tell me all. I get what I deserve. I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve it. I deserve it for I have it. I get what I deserve. What I deserve - what I deserve what I get. I have it so I deserve. He tries to make her afraid by not being afraid.
The Boys in the Band
(Not to be confused with the play of the same name - at least not the characters, we hope. This piece is for Gentle Giant as a whole - our engineer, Martin Rushant, included.)
For other uses of "Dog's Life", see Dog's Life (disambiguation).
Lead vocals: Phil
(A backhanded tribute to our roadies; our musical parody could only be drawn to a wily old dog. Surely two more unmatched sounds as the Regal (a medieval reed organ) and string section could not be found, but they seem to successfully convey the whine of both dog and roadie.)
Shuffling down the street with his sideways feet, Stopping now and then and he'll stop again, No doubt in his mind where he's going. He doesn't care for his hair or his teeth And if the truth were known he's a bit of a thief, Innocently lies, and it's showing. Who'd imagine he's man's best friend. Knowing he's your friend in the end. Won't be around when you shout or swear Not very sorry, he doesn't care; God knows why we call him old faithful. Pat him on the head, give the dog a bone; Use a friendly tone, he won't leave you alone. No one understands like old faithful. Early rise. Is it wise? Wonders happen now and then. Eats his fill, time to kill, Then goes back to sleep again. Trusty slave, bold and brave, And he roars like a lion But in fact, it's an act, And the truth is that he isn't No one understands it's a dog's life. Chases dreams, so it seems He shines in his master's light. Looking good, so he should For the choice is very narrow No one understands it's a dog's life. Repeat: Shuffling down the street, etc.
Think of Me With Kindness
Lead vocals: Kerry
(A personal song. It has been kept simple to retain the essentially intimate mood of the piece.)
Why am I using words, no more to say without you Close the door, put out the lights and go. Late in the night, in the night your shadow falls between us. Nevermore, never know. There, memories are sorrow, When there's no tomorrow. Sleep while the sweet sorrow wakes my daydream; Sleep while you think of me with kindness, please remember former days. Sweet the song that once we sang, the silent parting ways. And you know, and you know, And you know, long ago when first we made our promise - Empty words, I wonder did you know - The laugh that love could not forgive, Is gone and tells no more to live, And we who look in beauty's love; Must now, through all, look back on before - The tears that I first cried, no more; Your love has come and gone, no more. And we who look in beauty's love Must now through all think back on before. Sleep while the sweet sorrow wakes my daydream Sleep while you think of me with kindness, please remember former days. And you know, and you know. And you know, when we two parted in tears and silence past the days, the parting ways. Fare thee well, fare thee well, you that was once dear to me. Think of me with kindness Think of me.
(We have tried to create several atmospheres within the boundaries of one song by using the various electronic devices at our disposal in the recording studio.)
Touching the last of what is past Moving silent water fell the first that comes. Slow and winding, flowing free Peaceful music in its sound of distant drums. Trust the shallow virgin stream Danger wild, beware the deeper it becomes. Moving highway, twisting byway Can't turn back. Singing in the summer rain Rain that's caught in its flow. Spreading, shining, silver lining Gold on black. Echoes moods of the moon and sun Sun that shines from below. Makes a soft and easy way Left to choose its path will always be a friend. Touch the last of what has past. Never idle river drifting to the end.
The original cover art for Octopus is for sale for a mere $8000 (US).
Cool stuff in the music
- The album name "Octopus" comes from "Octo" (eight) and "Opus" (works), as there are eight tracks on the album. (Thanks to Richard McCready.)
- The Advent Of Panurge features Pantagruel, the giant first mentioned in Pantagruel's Nativity on Acquiring The Taste.
- The nonsense syllables in The Advent Of Panurge describe what happens in the original story about the two giants. Pantagruel meets Panurge by a bridge, and Panurge answers his questions by speaking in every language under the sun... except French. (Thanks to Michael Beauvois.)
- During the chorus of Raconteur Troubadour, the violin plays the vocal melody from the verse. It is very strange how they fit together!
- Listen closely to the string solo in Raconteur Troubadour. The opening melody is almost the same as the vocal melody on the verse, but the rhythm is changed. (I listened to this piece for eight years without noticing the similarity. Those clever lads.) In addition, the trumpet lick shortly afterward plays those same six notes of the melody, in a different rhythm. (Thanks to Richard McCready.)
- The lyrics of Knots come from poetry by psychologist R. D. Laing. His book, Knots, was published in 1970 Pantheon Books, New York, ISBN 0-394-47215-2.
- The high-speed drums in Knots are higher-pitched than the drums on the rest of the album. This has lead some Gentle Giant fans to suspect that the Knots drums were actually played slower and then sped up (raising the pitch as an artifact).
- The swirling noise at the end of Knots seems to tie itself into a knot in space. It helps to listen with headphones. (Thanks to Keith Hyman.)
- In Knots, on one of the early "verses" where they are all singing out of sync, listen to the lowest vocalist. The melody is the basis for the Crimson-ish instrumental section later on in the song. (Thanks to Eric Wohnlich.)
- In The Boys In The Band, one of the keyboard parts at 1:38 is the same as the bass part that comes in 21 seconds later. (Thanks to "Cookie.")
- A lyric in Think Of Me With Kindness, "when we two parted in tears and silence," is a slightly paraphrased quote from a poem by Lord Byron, When we Two Parted. The original goes: "When we two parted in silence and tears, half-broken-hearted to sever for years, pale grew thy cheek and cold, colder thy kiss." (Thanks to Norman Hesford.)
- In Think Of Me With Kindness, about 50 seconds in, just after "When there's no tomorrow," the music is reminiscent of the "Marlboro Country" riff from the beginning of The Magnificent Seven. (Thanks to Maynard Peterson and others.)
- About halfway through the guitar solo in River, you can hear Derek singing along with the guitar for about five seconds. (Thanks to Jon Dharma Murphree.)
|Boysband.mid||The Boys In The Band||Octopus||Bean|
|Kindness.mid||Think Of Me With Kindness||Octopus||Russell Maddox|
|Advent of panurge.mid||The Advent Of Panurge||Octopus||Maurizio Guarini|
|Raconteur.mid||Raconteur Troubadour||Octopus||Amit Amely|
|Kindness2.mid||Think Of Me With Kindness||Octopus||Dany Page|
|Sheet Music File||Title||Album||Contributor|
|Advent-of-panurge-bassonly-lgibaudan.pdf||The Advent of Panurge||Octopus||Lionel Gibaudan|
|Cry-for-everyone-bassonly-lgibaudan.pdf||A Cry For Everyone||Octopus||Lionel Gibaudan|
|Boys-in-the-band-bassonly-lgibaudan.pdf||The Boys In The Band||Octopus||Lionel Gibaudan|
|Think-of-me-with-kindness-bassonly-lgibaudan.pdf||Think Of Me With Kindness||Octopus||Lionel Gibaudan|
|Cry-for-everyone-psmith.zip||A Cry For Everyone||Octopus||Phil Smith|
|Think-of-me-with-kindness-cbaum.pdf||Think Of Me With Kindness||Octopus||Chris Baum|
|Knots-jmack.zip||Knots||Octopus||J. D. Mack|
|Advent-of-panurge-psmith.zip||The Advent Of Panurge||Octopus||Phil Smith|
|Cry-for-everyone-finger.pdf||A Cry For Everyone||Octopus||Bob Finger|
|Advent-of-panurge-finger.pdf||The Advent Of Panurge||Octopus||Bob Finger|
|Dogs Life WheatWilliams.zip||Dogs Life||Octopus||Wheat Williams, Phil Smith|
|Think Of Me WheatWilliams.zip||Think Of Me With Kindness||Octopus||Wheat Williams, Phil Smith|
This list is not necessarily complete, and various releases are out of print.
|Germany||LINE Records, LICD 9.00736|
|USA||Columbia, CK 32022|
|UK||Vertigo, 842 694-2|
|Japan||Nippon Phonogram Co., Ltd., PHCR-4203|
|Japan||Nippon Phonogram Co., Ltd., PPD-3094|
|Korea||Si-Wan, SRMC 0044|
|Germany||Repertoire Records IMS-7032|
|Japan||Universal Japan (British Rock Legend series)|
The Columbia disc is missing 2 seconds of piano -- really, a quiet little piano riff -- played just before "A Cry For Everyone." Greg Hajic reports that his Columbia LP is also missing this riff, but his Vertigo UK LP has it. David Bradley reports that the Steven Wilson blu-ray "flat transfer" disc of the original stereo master is also missing the riff.
Mats Westin reports that the LINE CD has a "ghost image" in the right channel: "The vocals on 'The Advent of Panurge' start off to the right but when more instruments kick in, they appear centre." I suspect you have to listen very closely with headphones to detect this.
Espen Beranek Holm reports that the Vertigo disc has a minor dropout in the track "The Boys In The Band" at 2:43 (out of a drum-fill). It is detectable with headphones.
Noda Hiroshi reports that the Nippon disc has none of the above defects. email@example.com says that the Repertoire disc does not have the defects either. I know nothing more about the Si-Wan release.
Basil Francis reports that the Repertoire version has a defect in Raconteur Troubadour around 3:08, where they seem to have cut out a fraction of a second, making the verse not flow.
Jimmy Patto reports that the Repertoire version has the dynamics compressed. He verified this by comparing the tracks to those on the Vertigo CD using Audacity.